IamFry said 05/29, 10:11 AM
Of course, it's designed to get right-wing blood flowing, what with the articles focusing on the 'laughable' behavior of 'typical' liberals, or the insane attempts of liberals (or minorities) to steal your freedom, but it pisses the other side off pretty well too.
An argument made in the talk radio genre is usually emotionally charged and devoid of sturdy logic, and when I hear them made, I can't help but think that the audience is subconsciously absorbing these crappy rants without scrutiny.
Sure, you could say it's not really "pissing off" the kool-aid-drinking audience, but I disagree. It may be a piss-off of solidarity, but that's still a piss-off. A 'reminder' of how the country is continuously attacked by nut-jobs from within gets the job done.
Skipper04 said 06/03, 03:01 AM
Forgive me, if i take this in a direction that you didn't want it to go, but i saw that no one was taking the face-off so i figured you'd atleast like to have a discussion. I agree that it pisses people off (no one would disagree), but i don't think it's a bad thing. In fact, I think it is almost an achievement that they were able to get people to care so deeply about a political issue. Mostly people seem to be uncaring and ignorant when it comes to politics. Talk radio atleast stirs up interest in important issues from time to time. It might even get them mad enough to actually take action.
Yeah, it's often more emotional than logical, but it atleast serves as an introduction to the issue at hand. It does encourage people to think about the issue, if it makes them mad, then they try to formulate an effective counter-argument. They start to formulate their own political philosophy. This is healthy
I prefer it to those that just don't care at all. As tough as it is to progress with a polarized demographic, it is just as tough to democratically govern an ignorant community that won't speak up or just doesn't care enough to.
Most of their listeners are political junkies,too
IamFry said 06/06, 05:50 PM
Sorry for the delayed response.
That's fine, Skip; we'll agree that t.r. makes people angry, and I'll assume the position that pissing people off is not a good thing.
For one, most people listening are behind the wheel. If for no other reason, we don't need any more angry motorists.
Addressing your "inspire to take action" argument, an anger-inducing stimulus seldom results in a rational, collected response. Angry responses are consistently negative, and things are no different in the realm of the political.
These wanna-be demagogues stir up emotions based on semi-factual articles and, once the outrage sets in, the line between hyperbole and fact becomes blurred. I've spoken with people who have matter-of-factly stated, "You can't do THIS, and you can't do THAT," because they heard some idiot on the radio say it.
You can't use certain words any more. You can't worship freely any more. You Illegal aliens are living the high life on our tax dollars.
I agree that an ignorant populous is tough to govern, but I don't accept that talk radio does anything to ameliorate that.
Skipper04 said 06/07, 05:25 PM
Haha, well i can agree with the angry motorists argument.
It does often result in an angry, emotional response at first. However, I believe, that after most people have gotten over the initial outburst, their reason begins to return. When Rush Limbaugh gets on his pulpit and blurts out his conservative ideology, it has a much greater affect than just the initial angry responses and brainwashing of an ignorant listeners. It also, often mobilizes both supporting and opposing force, once the ignorant statement makes its way in to mainstream airwaves. The debate on CNN and the local evening news often spills out into the public at large. I do believe that illegal immigration would be debated less in the public if it was not for talk radio hosts that take such a strong stance on the issue and shares it with the listeners.
For the most part,i also believe, the public has the capability to overcome their initial anger and give the issue brought up further contemplation. There are a lot of blowhorns out there just looking for a leader like these talk radio hosts. But when they begin spouting their mouths off to others they also motivate reasonable people to form intelligent responses.
IamFry said 06/07, 07:00 PM
From my experience, talk radio listeners don't have discussions and become educated; discussion of a certain topic may give them pause, but they'll be back to the trough the next day, and any progress made will be washed away.
Illegal immigration is a hot topic in the US, no matter who talks about it -- whether it's Lou Dobbs or Rush Limbaugh. If anything, it's an opportunity for talk radio guys to get their audiences riled up, because it's something that everyone 'gets'.
I consider myself a reasonable person, and I don't expect that t.r. audiences are hearing intelligent responses; they're probably just going right to the polls and perverting our system.
Skipper04 said 06/08, 01:33 PM
well, i disagree with your opinion about the listeners, but i meant to indicate that a broader group of the public is affected by talk radio than just its immediate listeners. Living on a college campus, there have been a few times as a political science major that i have heard a comment from Limbaugh repeated in the cafeteria or school halls. If he says something radical enough, and he often does, it gets heard on the more traditional media outlets. From there, it reaches the ears of those that don't traditionally listen to his show.
Perhaps, I wasn't paying enough attention (which I admit is a possibility), but i don't remember the illegal immigration debate really gaining traction with the American public before some of the more conservative talk radio hosts started railing against it. By the way, Lou Dobbs is not much higher on the totem pole of respect for me. At any rate, it seems to be accepted that the media plays a vital role in producing public interest in political debates, and talk radio is one of its most popular outlets.s
I wasn't implying that Lou Dobbs is worthy of your (or anyone's) respect, just using him as an example of a non-talk radio guy who harps on illegal immigration.
IamFry | 06/08/08
Report Offensive Commentyeah, i just felt the need to say it. because i really can't stand Lou Dobbs. the most self-serving man on the tube.
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Very well said, Skipper.
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