McCain was correct in changing Bush's "Mission Accomplished" banner to read "Mission Accomplished - in 100 years".
Hadrian said 06/06, 02:15 AM
John McCain has something to teach George Bush. Verb Tenses!
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Still explaining the "Mission Accomplished" banner 5 years latter, the White House says Bush is well aware that the banner should have said 'mission accomplished for these sailors who are on this ship on their mission'."
How awkward! McCain had his own "Mission Accomplished" moment and handled it much better!
"I can tell you that it [the Surge] is succeeding. I can look you in the eye and tell you it's succeeding. We have drawn down to pre-surge levels."
--John McCain, Town Hall meeting, May 28, 2008.
One small problem. The troops in Iraq are not now at "pre-surge levels". That will not happen until later this year, even by the most optimistic scenario.
McCain spokespeople say he simply used the wrong "verb tense". When McCain says we are at "pre-surge levels" NOW in Iraq, he is saying we are at "pre-surge levels" in the FUTURE!
In other words, we have already won the war because we PLAN to win the war!
McCain is now campaigning in front of a newly amended Bush war banner: "Mission Accomplished -- in 100 years".
In a related announcement, it's reported that Obama is now the winner of the November election.
obama2008 said 06/12, 12:23 PM
Wars aren't won because it is planned to win. Every nation in history has planned on winning a war. When a war erupts, people fight and die. When the war ends, someone loses. For example WW2, Adolf Hitler did not plan on the outcome he was given.
Also this type of "limited wars" we have to fight these days are very indirect wars. The old warfare style was destroy the enemies military and move to take the capital and they would surrender. This makes wars of today very difficult there is no clear goal as we have the Bush administration change their goal 4 or 5 times.
A war cannot be fought for 100 years. Its not possible no nation has enough resources. Especially with the US current situation sinking into recession we cannot afford to fight for 100 years as Sen. John McCain says we need to.
I don't believe the surge was effective except to tell Al Qaeda that we will be there for a long time becasue of our leaders ignorance so they can just burn time and wage a war of attrition and we spend almost 100 billion a year on this war. How many more years can we spend 100 billion a year.
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Not to mention the fact that you are actually taking Hadrian 100% seriously and McCain's quote completely out of context
MorgMcA | 06/12/08
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I agree with you Morg. Could it be that the subject is just too big? I also don't remember McCain saying we "need to fight for 100 years", at least never so clear and that specific. I may have missed something from his war messages, but that... I cannot remember.
POST | 06/13/08
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I'm still uncertain as to what it is exactly that Hadrian is trying to prove...
Katelyn | 07/22/08
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Please keep it clean. Bad words will get filtered, and offensive comments will be removed.
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A very simplisic view of the complexities of war and a lack of interest in current events. i suspect that obama2008 plans on winning, but then debates aren't won by planning to win.
MorgMcA | 06/12/08
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