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MorgMcA said 09/19, 01:09 AM
I'm not sure whether to respond to your statement or to your arguement. so I'll do both

Bush has during his 8 years attempted to streamline some of the more cumbersome bureaucracies in the government and turn them into more agile, reactive and efficient organizations

Bush sees the big picture. Iraq isn't just Iraq. Bringing the war on terror to a new front and forcing Al-Qaeda's hand into making Iraq the premeir battlefront, takes the initiative away from the terrorists, puts them on the defensive and turns Iraq into a make-or-break fight for them and it looks more like they're closer to breaking than making it

Stocks rise and fall all the time. I really don't think that is the market you should be so worried about, especially if you're trying to make W look bad and sound knowledgeable about current events

You provide no support for McCain equaling W

We can't afford a president who does nothing. Obama voted present more often than he voted for or against. He has no legislative accomplishments. He'll meet w/ openly hostile leaders w/o preconditions meaning he'll do nothing. A leader who makes some bad decisions is much better than the leader who does nothing

MorgMcA said 09/23, 12:51 PM
Sorry I really don't think Obama has really said or done anything new. He talks about change, as does every canidate. Health care he stole from Hillary. Talk of taking politics out of issues is a gimmick especially coming from Obama. He gained the party nomination as a frontman for Moveon.org, now he's extended his timetable to almost the same timeframe McCain proposes. He's done absolutely nothing during his 2 year stint as a senator, except of course do some vote-pandering via earmarked waste.

McCain's new ideas; comprehensive immigration reform, the surge, campaign finance reform, removing russia from the G8 (why was it even in the G7+Russia in the first place?), eliminating pork barrel spending, gas tax holiday, comprehensive energy production (oil+wind+solar+nuclear+biofuel+anything else we can use to produce energy)

once again you fail to support your claim that McCain equals W

in answer to your proposed "new" question, based off what I've just outlined, yes I would prefer someone w/ new ideas over someone w/ no ideas. that's why I support McCain. If I wanted to support someone w/ new ideas, there's absolutely no way I even contemplate voting for Obama

MorgMcA said 09/23, 11:36 PM
No, this is a debate, not a polling station. YOU speak and actually try to convince anyone that "We can't have a president who agrees w/ George Bush 90% of the time".

Ooh Obama's leading in the polls, hej guess what, last week McCain was leading in the polls, and after the debates it's likely He'll retake the lead again.

My information which isn't true, hmm... well, if that's the only thing you have to say to make your point it looks like you just buy into hype and talk and ignore reason and logic. After a rebuttal like that I'm so convinced that I need to go out and start campaigning for Obama. Heh-heh... yeah

in the end?! are you an oracle or a prophet? what's all this talk about in the end?! who are you to say what is inevitable and what can't be?