MorgMcA said 10/01, 02:05 AM
Nancy Pelosi in cooperation w/ president Bush, and Senators Obama and McCain, the senate majority and minority leaders, as well as Rep John Boehner created a bipartisan bill that would provide relief to many of the banks across America
However it would appear that she would rather symbolicly cooperate than actually do anything. Cooperation was politically neccessisary rather than her actual intent.
She was the House Majority leader, she could've passed any bill she wanted w/ the exclusive support of her Democratic allies. She didn't even need house republican support and until McCain went to Washington, house republican concerns were largely ignored. After negotiating a bipartisan measure, she then introduced it to the house for a vote w/ a speech that railed against republicans and effectively forced them to vote for an admission of fault clause. Then she was unable to rally enough support from the majority party (which she led) to support the bill. Had she not added a fiercely partisan tone or had she convinced even 70% (still less than 3/4) of house democrats to support the bill it would've passed. Instead she was more interested in playing politics
Obamarocks said 10/01, 06:26 PM
She voted for the Bill, therefore she wanted it to pass. She said on Monday night that she and Democrats had done everything they could to work in a non-partisan way, and that is what happened. The ones who wanted the bil to fail are the two third of Republicans who voted against the bill. Republicans were the ones who were playing politics and acting in a party political fashion. And now because of them America's economy is in real trouble. Even their leader Bush disagrees with them over this. Republicans on Monday were trying to save their skins for November. Them voting 'no' is nothing more than a cynical political ploy. Democrats showed integrity in the House on Monday, unlike McCain the other week suspending his campaign out of the blue as soon as his rich backers loose some money on wall St.
MorgMcA said 10/02, 01:19 AM
Of course she voted for it herself, afterall this was her bill
But if she wanted it to pass, she should've had her own party convincingly support it (40% of dems voted against it). Her own party could've passed this bill on it's own, this is afterall the majority party and hasn't had any trouble passing whatever they've wanted before w/ or w/o rep support. Blaming the house minority party for any bill's failure is a pathetic excuse
If she wanted bipartisan support she shouldn't've alienated the reps, this caused many reps who were hesitant, but leaning towards passing the bill to reverse course. you can't talk of bipartisanship while simultaneously accusing the other party of causing the problem you're trying to solve
I remember all the dems accusing McCain of playing politics when he suspended his campaign (if he was self interested he would've kept campaigning) to come to washington to ensure house rep's concerns were even heard at all. Now the dems can't introduce the bill w/o blaming the reps for the problem, nor can they pass the bill on their own, and then they have to blame the reps for their own failure. Whose playing politics now? they only needed 12 more votes
Sorry boys, this old con(servative) is tired of fighting, guess I'll be seeing ya. Thanks to all I've debated and respected.
MorgMcA | 10/03/08
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They let the American people suffer because they got their feelings hurt.
ReVoluTionNow! | 10/01/08
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