President Jimmy Carter has no room to call W the worst president in recent history
MorgMcA said 10/01, 03:15 AM
Considering Carter's track record, rampant stagflation, Iran hostage crisis, inneffectual problem resolving, weakness in treaty negotiations, gas rationing, WIN buttons, skyrocketing misery index, is there anything I left out? With a bumbling moron at the wheel nothing went right for America in 4 short years. GWB may not be a great nor even a good president but the worst president in recent history... Jimmy, Jimmy, Jimmy... If only your world worked the way the real world does
Proud 2 b liberal said 10/01, 02:34 PM
Carter, while be a great man and humanitarian was not a good president. GWB has been much much worse. Not only has he destryed the economy, but he has destoyed the US image around the world.
Some of his biggest disasters have been on the international front. Instead of making the world a safer place, Mr. Bush has made war, wrought destruction, and undermined multilateral efforts to build and sustain a more livable world. And what is probably the warst part of it all was that he was lying to the American people as he was digging us into this hole.
On the domestic front, GWB has not been kinder to American people, nor secured their well-being as their elected leader is supposed to do. He has redistributed wealth from the middle class upward ??? to the very wealthiest families in America. He has continually tried to foist his religious beliefs upon a country that was built on the premise of separation of church and state. He has fought for deregulation of the economy which was in good part to blame for this present situation that we are in.
Jimmy Carter was no greta shakes as president, but we would have been better off if he had been back in office for the past 8 years.
MorgMcA said 10/02, 01:48 AM
Many of Carters biggest disasters were on the International front, he made us appear to the world as a bellowing weakling, purporting to be the leader of the free world, yet we can't even free a few hostages taken by a third world country (he never did free them, they spent the rest of his entire term in prison 'til Reagan got them out). Terrorism first reared it's ugly head under his stewardship. He signed away the most strategic waterway the US possessed and for nothing
GWB has fought and largely, though not completely, succeeded in two wars and has kept terrorists from striking American soil again
Under Carter the poor and middle classes lost everything they had to inflation, economic disaster and massive layoffs
Under Carter the US went from supplying over 70% of it's own oil, to much less than half, fully exposing us to OPEC's wrath when it halted sales to the west. The US experienced for the first time rationing in peacetime
He was the most naive president we've ever had believing the Russians to be friendly and that WIN (whip inflation now) buttons could solve the economy
not only did Carter preside over all of this, it all happened in 4 short years
Proud 2 b liberal said 10/02, 06:36 AM
No doubt that Carter was bad but not even close to the worst. Calamitous presidents, faced with enormous difficulties -- Buchanan, Andrew Johnson, Hoover and now Bush -- have divided the nation, governed erratically and left the nation worse off. In each case, different factors contributed to the failure: disastrous domestic policies, foreign-policy blunders and military setbacks, executive misconduct, crises of credibility and public trust. Bush, however, is one of the rarities in presidential history: He has not only stumbled badly in every one of these key areas, he has also displayed a weakness common among the greatest presidential failures -- an unswerving adherence to a simplistic ideology that considers deviation from dogma as heresy, thus preventing any pragmatic adjustment to changing realities. Repeatedly, Bush has undone himself, a failing revealed in each major area of presidential performance.
I do not agree to your statement that GWB has precided over 2 successful wars. Iraq is far from won and his lack of attention to Afghanistan has been a major blunder.
MorgMcA said 10/03, 02:44 AM
Sorry P2B, I said worst in recent history, while I think Carter was indeed the worst in history, the premise keeps me from having to prove he was the worst ever
I guess Bush just stumbled into reelection too, something that Carter never could do. Reason why? Despite his safeguard as the incumbent, he couldn't convince America that anything had ever gone right during the short 4 years they gave him
I said, He has fought and "largely, though not completely, succeeded"
"Bush, however, is one of the rarities in presidential history: He has not only stumbled badly, he has also displayed a weakness common among the greatest presidential failures -- an unswerving adherence to a simplistic ideology that considers deviation from dogma as heresy" Have you paid any attention during the last 2 years or do you, like Obama, not see anything past 2003
Carter's short presidency faced all of the problems of the Bush admin, yet dealt w/ them far worse, to the point where this old peanut farmer barely even won his own primary as the incumbent, had he lost the primary he would've become the first president to lose his bid for re-election during the primary season, and he was so close
Proud 2 b liberal said 10/03, 01:17 PM
Lets see, what can one consider worse.....the inability to free a handful of hostages or sending thousands of young people off to a war based on lies.
On most issues GWB (or shrub as I like to refer to him), has stuck to his narrow minded ideology. He doesn't get that not everyone strives for an American form of democracy (which in judging for the 2000 election is not much of a democracy at all). He doesn't get that America is built on the concerpt of separation of church and state. He knows that not everyone shares his belief system, but doggon it, he sure would like to change that.
Bush has helped to kill this economy, destroyed our school system with no child left behind, hindered our efforts to slow global warming, totally botched the rescue efforts after hurricane Katrina, stomped all over the constitution with the Patriot Act and alienated our country from most of the world.
That trumps Carters ineptitude any day.
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WOW morg I think we can agree! While I believe that W is the worst president in history, it is truly apalling that one of the other worst presidents in history would have the nerve to hurl an insult that he himself is a canidate for. Jimmy Carter was one of the most inept presidents right under Bush.
ReVoluTionNow! | 10/01/08
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GWB has done more damage than just the economy and Iraq. His policies have neglected to combat global warming, stifled clean energy development, deepened our dependence on foreign oil and oil in general, ripped away some of our most precious civil liberties in the Patriot Act and the Military Commissions Act of 2006, and plunged our national debt the deepest its ever been. Bush has failed to regulate the banks so now the taxpayers must pay billions more on top of the national debt from Chinese lending and the war in Iraq for the executives of these banks and companies to make it out ok after unscrupulous business practices. The United States has completed ignored victims of natural disasters in our own country, and tortured suspected terrorists. We're proud of our lax gun controls while the U.S. remains ranked last in terms of gun violence against children. Not to mention the dollar becoming weaker almost by the day and our stock markets plunging into unseen depths now. Is there anything I left out?
qbpuck321 | 10/01/08
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No sir. Worst president in history. He actually privatized war. wow.
ReVoluTionNow! | 10/01/08
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Watch out puck, these facists love to call you "UnAmerican" as soon as you bring up some type of real history in which the government has failed or abused people's rights. It is their only defense. Luckily I do not hold an ethnocentric view of the world. We are human beings before we are Americans. People tend to forget that.
ReVoluTionNow! | 10/02/08
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Well, while the debate isn't over, my share is. I'm just going to say so long to all those I've butted heads w/ and antagonized. A special farewell to Iam, YoungDem, Pit, DD, SL, Skipper, Tickers, Downing and all the others whose opinions and arguements I've come to respect.
MorgMcA | 10/03/08
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By no stretch of the imagination do I believe GWB was a beneficial president for us. What he did pretty much any president would have done, blunders with Iraq (starting war #2 on bad WMD info) and all. The current economic mess can be tracked back many years, and sadly for the democrats it lays mostly in their laps going back to Clinton's first year in office, but republicans are not ones with clean hands here either. This is where the word REFORM should take on new life. Anyway, Carter is/was a socialist idealist that did extreme harm to the USA in foreign affairs as well as economically, so has Bush. As far as ideals go though, I'd have to side with Bush only because he isn't willing to toss the USA into a dumpster the way Carter has in statements over the years. Not much of a consolation prize in Bush on that argument though.
Spirit2008 | 10/03/08
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Actually I think Former Pres. Carter has every right to. He needs to pass the batton to someone and George W. Bush is perfect.
Free Voice | 10/03/08
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If Herbert Hoover was alive, he would have passed the batton directly to George W. Bush skipping Carter.
Free Voice | 10/03/08
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Reagan freed the Iranian hostages by illegally selling weapons to the Khomeni regime. Reagan's team broke America's long stance against caving into terrorist demands. Imagine if Clinton had sold weapons to Bin Laden!
Glover | 10/03/08
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If Lincoln were alive, he would give the award to Bush. While somewhat ineffectual, Carter was a good soul that inherited a bag of turd- the economic and political crises he faced were mostly inevitable. He was also sabotaged something fierce, kind of like what happened during Clintons second term without a **** or special investigator. The hostage release was brokered before Reagen took office (Algiers Accord), and they were released literally within minutes of Reagen getting sworn in (and thus began revisionist Reagen-istory). Since leaving office Carter has been an ambassador par extraordinaire, and a tireless humanitarian worker. As a man, Bush is not fit to lick Carters boots. The magnitude of damage Bush has created, both here and abroad, is unparalleled in modern history. Especially when you consider what he inherited. Carter was spot on.
Kattman | 10/15/08
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Only Axl Rose remains in the group, but since 1987 GnR has been rocking with fury
More than 50 years of cover stories about the 35th President
I guess everyone needs some one to blame for the things they have no control of... but really this economic situation has been in the works for more than 8 years, in fact it was Bill Clinton who signed the bill that allowed savings and investment banks to merge, one of the major events that led to this. Now I will not say that GWB did us any real favors when it came to government spending or regulation, but come people... the problems we have now are the results of bad decisions on the parts of both republicans AND democrats over the past several years. Pointing fingers is not going to fix the economy.
xm4r5h4llx | 10/01/08
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