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What Charitable organizations should be taxed? I want a list and reasons why these should be taxed and others shouldn't. Plus I want to know how taxing a charitable organization that is trying to help people at all going to solve many problems in certain segments of society.

shrek | 03/12/08

organizations that have signifigance amounts of income generated in business dealings that do not serve the core purpose of said organization should be taxed and not allowed to use existing loopholes and exemptions to avoid payment. more people who need the help could get it

illinoisman | 03/12/08

Give some examples of profit organizations that are not taxed. Generally, charities have to prove they are non-profit to maintain tax exempt status. Unless you can prove it is not already happening the argument sort of loses its point.

Eveas | 03/12/08

I'm going to state again for Eveas that the point here is NOT that non-profits are not being taxed (I know what you meant despite the typo), the point is that non-profits who generate income through activities not mission related should pay a flat-tax on that income. Those monies collected can then be used to implement the core programs of non-profits nation wide.Do you get it now? Eveas, please dont respond. You have no idea what I'm talking about.

illinoisman | 03/12/08

It wasn't a typo. When I called them profit organizations I meant just that. If they are generating income that is profitable, they are not non-profit. If it is like you said from an operation not tied to the specific mission of the non-profit organization but all the profits go into the organizations charity work then it is still non-profit. That is because they are not holding onto any of the profits. They are using them for the main purpose of the charity. If you claim I have no idea what you are talking about I am sure the same is true for everyone else. That was why I asked for an example of an organization you are arguing against the practices of. You have failed to do do. Since it is your debate, the burden of proof is on you.

Eveas | 03/13/08

I agree with Eveas! I asked in the first comment for a list and why some should be taxed and others shouldn't. That has been failed to be provided. Until this information has been provided my vote is with Flipside!

shrek | 03/13/08

Ahhh....i see. So, shrek and Eveas...you guys are asking for the name of every church, charity, and foundation who takes profits from unrelated business and uses those profits to further that unrelated business as well as other private ventures? Well....there are thousands..but look at these : Creflo Dollar's Ministries, Crista Ministries in Seattle, and Trinity Christian Center of Santa Ana, CA. To Shrek: All charities and non-profits should pay a flat-tax on unrelated business. I said some should pay simply because there are many small charities that function primarily for their core purpose.However, their larger counterparts of this type find various loopholes and exemptions to hoard money that could otherwise go to those who need it. To Eveas: my apologies for singling you out, as I understand now what you meant

illinoisman | 03/13/08

Charity organizations still need capital to grow. The bigger the organization gets the more people they can help. Taxing these organizations would hinder their growth and at the same time act as a deterant to anyone attempting to get involved in such an organization. People and buisnesses pay enough taxes as it is. You want to tax someone, start taxing the millions of illegal immigrants here. Let's not tax charities who are, whether making money on the side or not, try and help people. Which is more then I can say for a lot of people in this country.

shrek | 03/13/08

I agree with you shrek that the illegals should be taxed. Actually, they need to be deported, but that would require an operation on a scale so massive war would be induced. To get to your point, Taxing these organizations would not hinder their growth because A) the monies collected would be used to strengthen existing charities who are not as fortunate to have thousands of members but serve an equally important purpose.B) It would encourage charities to devote more of this unrelated income to its core purpose rather than finace exorbitant salaries and lavish lifestyles for charity leades and organizers C)People would get involved more because they will know more of their donations would serve the purpose of their favorite charities. Its the concept of using charity to contribute charity just as consumers contribute to capitalism through investments.

illinoisman | 03/13/08