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Ron Paul Has a Real Shot


In my opening argument, I'll refrain from singing the praises of the Paulster. Instead, let me merely point out that none of the other so-called "Major" candidates has generated an ounce of legitimate passion with Republican primary voters. Mitt Romney is a haircut waiting for an idea. Giuliani is an idea waiting for a haircut. Thompson? McCain? Please. Passion stlll matters in politics, and for that reason, the Paulster could well make a race of this.


As excited as I am that Ron Paul is in the race, he has absolutely no chance to win any national majority votes, much less the primaries. If anything, his presence in the race will replicate what Ross Perot achieved in 1992: keeping the leading 2-party candidates open and accountable. While passion still matters in politics, a majority of the American voting public still prefers their politics spoon-fed to them by media-friendly figures with the pop-culture visibility handed to them by major media outlets. Grassroots politics is a nice idea, but America is nowhere near ready to put such a rogue political figure in such a major office.

Also, lest we forget, the dissenting Republican still represents the GOP in an election that could extend the Democratic Congress' reign. Most level headed Dems (or Republicans, for that matter) would not be willing to compromise titles, even in the name of bipartisanship.

Thanks for the input, Mr. Paul, but you're just not marketable enough for America.


Let's look at the latest CBS/NY Times numbers out of New Hampshire:

Romney 34 (no trend)
McCain 16
Giuliani 16
Paul 8
Huckabee 6
Thompson 5
Undecided 14

Ron Paul leads a former Arkansas governor (and noted recipient of the media's randomly drawn "he's got momentum" award last week) and the reputed "wildcard maverick." He has more money than McCain to get actual momentum going in the run up to the primary. He also has no Kerik-sized skeletons to jump out of the closet and spook a large swath of the electorate. Oh. And he's not a flip-flopping Mormon. (Indulge that simply as a quick summary of Romney's negatives; it's not intended as an insult.) So does Paul have a chance? Absolutely. A lot has to go right for him to turn a toe-hold into a foothold, but people LOVE Ron Paul, and passion has a way of paying dividends when None of the Above is the next most credible option.


Please understand, I would be incredibly pumped if Ron Paul won the nomination and eventually the presidency. He is a candidate who openly steps off of the Republican party line, not to mention having years of political experience. A Ron Paul presidency would no doubt shift the political climate away from single party control.

...which is exactly why he won't win.

Again, the Ross Perot teaches us that independence is only novelty in the grand scheme of American politics (not to compare Paul to Perot in terms of being articulate... Ol' Ron wins by a landslide). As for the polls, I commend the Paul campaign for turning a relatively unknown candidate into somewhat of a celebrity (as opposed to just a politician). However, 8 points in New Hampshire and only a short amount of caucus time cannot produce the landsline numbers needed to swing the race dramatically.

Republicans will vote for those espousing popular Republican ideals, and Democrats will do the same for their candidates. If nothing else, I hope that Ron Paul's presence in the race produces some level of accountability in the major candidates.


I hope so, too, but what you're overlooking is that Ron Paul in not an Independent. He's a Republican???a REAL Republican. Wipe away the last 16 years and he'd be in the dead-center of the GOP ideology. And sooner or later GOP voters, let alone the party leadership, are going to realize that wiping away the last 16 years is the best chance for victory in '08. Now, the haircut from Massachusetts accomplishes a lot of that, and primary voters might well settle on him as a safe choice for change. But Paul is on the kind of trajectory that has him being a factor in January???and that means he has a real chance.


I'll conclude with counterpoints to a couple of your arguments:

"He's... a REAL Republican. Wipe away the last 16 years and he'd be in the dead-center of the GOP ideology."

Again, this is one of those "the way it is, not the way it should be" kind of arguments. What good is a "Real Republican" if their constituents desire the modern, hijacked GOP platforms? The point is not just his ideology, it's the marketability thereof. The hacks do not want a candidate who opposes the war in Iraq (and potential intervention in Iran), favors medical marijuana, opposed NCLB and the Marriage Amendment Act, etc. People want a tow-the-line poster boy for the RNC, which Mr. Paul is not.

"Paul is on the kind of trajectory that has him being a factor in January and that means he has a real chance."

Really? 8 points in New Hampshire and only a few weeks left for the caucus to mobilize in his favor? I wouldn't call that a "real chance".

"...sooner or later GOP voters, let alone the party leadership, are going to realize that wiping away the last 16 years is the best chance for victory in '08"

Let's hope they realize this before January...

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Paul-button

A quote from Dr.Ron Paul, "As a matter of fact, if you look at every single problem we're facing today, it's because of the lack of respect for the rule of law and the Constitution"

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Military

Ron Paul has the political mentality of a third grader.

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Paul-button

winemkr....maybe you need to review his standing in the Government and how long he has been in and around it: Republican United States Congressman from Lake Jackson, Texas, a physician, and a 2008 U.S. presidential candidate. He has represented Texas's 14th Congressional district (1997???present) and its 22nd district (1976???1977 and 1979???1985) in the U.S. House of Representatives. over 20 years in public service....now what was that about his mentality?

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I am NOT an Elephant ... personally, I think the Neocons are going to lose no matter who they parade out of the gate .. when you look at Mitt you see a guy who is still relatively young and handsome .. then compare him to the other ancient fossils the 'Cons' are trying to push on us .. Giulooney looks like a 10 year old that went to seed long ago .. McCain Brain prances around like a 23 year old but we all know he's pushing 75 .. and don't get me started on Fred 'Munster' Thompson .. that guy looks like a walking cadaver .. he should have been an extra on 'The Night of The Living Dead .. Mitt will win out

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i'm scared.

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