A Canadian citizen should not be required to present a Passport at the boarder to America.
therealkroysc said 04/02, 03:21 PM
Canadians are a negligible threat to the sovereignty of the United States. Every day there are thousands of people that cross the international boarder to work, conduct business and visit friends and family. In these times of uncertainty we should be vigilant at out boarders and ports, but not discriminatory towards who is perhaps the best ally we have ever had. We do have NAFTA, witch is not absolute but in essence is free trade. If we are fee to trade then why not travel?
Also in no way am I promoting a completely open boarder. The old process of stopping, flashing an ID such as a drivers license and stating your purpose of entering the country in my humble opinion, is a completely reasonable policy.
yngster said 04/02, 03:58 PM
Border security is as much of an issue as it has ever been. The reason security at our borders is so tight is to keep Enemies of the U.S. out. The CIA claims that Al Quaeda is training terrorists that look Western. If securitry was reduced at the boarder it would open a window that these Western looking terroritst could climb right through. You dont need to be a citizen of Canada to obtain a valid driver's licence in Canada. Displaying a passport shows which country the traveler is native of and it also show which countries the travler has traveled to. I dont see why displaying a passport at the boarder is such a big deal. There is no reason to decrease national security simply because it is an inconvenience.
therealkroysc said 04/02, 10:33 PM
Those Who Sacrifice Liberty For Security Deserve Neither. - Benjamin Franklin
I believe this is an unprecedented invasion of personal privacy, creating a database of information to which officials in all levels of government have access to. Many pieces of legislation in the last several years have re defined "terrorism" in much more broad terms that could potentially include members of pro gun, anti abortion, anti union, or any other groups that the current people in power see fit in the political climate of the moment. There is no prohibition to including information collected while citizens practice their first amendment rights. This legislation does in essence what firearm legislation does, punishes law abiding citizens. The only thing this accomplishes is a false sense of security and yet another step on the path to a police state.
The Canadian Security Intelligence Service provides security through the CSIS and Anti Terrorism acts. This is done while protecting the civil liberties of all Canadian citizens.
yngster said 04/03, 03:34 PM
First of all, how could presenting a passport to the boarder official be an unprecedented invasion of personal privacy? Al they do is open your passport, look at which countries you've traveled too and ask you to state your business inside the United States. This is, clearly, not an invasion of personal privacy. An invasion of person privacy would be going through your wife or girl friends luggage without any grounds to do so.
Second of all, if Canadian citizens are only required to present an I.D. than how does the boarder security know that they are a Canadian citizen? Your resolution stands upon a weak argument. I am yet to see one single reason why we should decrease national security, simply, because it is a MINOR inconvenience.
therealkroysc said 04/04, 10:16 AM
In no way do I abdicate lessening security, instead I purpose a return to normalcy, as in the policy that has worked for decades, if not centuries.
The International Boundary between the United States and Canada is 5,522 miles long. It is also the longest, and one of the most porous, boarder areas between 2 countries in the world. I am not arrogant enough to believe that a terrorist is not able to find a hole to sneak through.
yngster said 04/04, 02:18 PM
First of all, you stated that allowing canadian citizens to cross the boarder without a passport would,'t weaken security. This is false for three reasons. 1)It will weaken security because than we would basicly allow anybody with a Canadian Drivers Liscence to cross the boarder.
2)It will weaken security becasue the boarder security knows nothing about the traveler they are letting into the country. By looking at a passport they are able to get more information about the traveler. This information helps the security make decisions about who to detain and who to search.3) A Driver's Liscence is much easier to forge than a passport is.
Also, if the government weakens security at the northern boarder, they must do the same at the southern boarder, otherwise that would be a double standard. Obviously, with millions of illegal immigarants inside the country weakening security at the southern boarder would be a mistake.
Lastly, you may not be arrogant enought to believe that a terrorist couldn't seak through a hole in security, but you're arrogant enough to believe that returning to the old policy of presenting a Driver's Licence to the boarder official wouldn't weaken security.
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It is currently ease itself to immigrate to Canada, which means that terrorists can do it too. Canadian ID is much easier to get in Canada for immigrants than American ID is for our immigrants. The northern border needs to remain as is in order to prevent terrorists potentially coming in from Canada.
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