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USA Pit Bull 63 said 04/13, 06:40 PM
First, all Hillary has done is recycle the same Democratic Party talking points (more jobs only for certain types of workers; tax the rich more; eliminate tax cuts; raise capital gains tax; have government pay for health care; etc.) for the past eight years, and even before then.

Then she changed her mind (i.e., Iraq) and said whatever was seemed popular among her constituency. But I'm being redundant, as that IS the same Democratic Party strategy for the past eight (and longer) years.

Also, since when have Virginia, South Carolina, Nebraska, Louisiana, Wisconsin, Minnesota, Colorado, and Georgia (to name a few) been 'small states already in the bag for Dems' during a General Election? Seems to me the GOP usually depends on most of those states, half of which have been 'swing' states the past two elections. Also, it doesn't matter if Hillary wins battleground states now -- she's battling another Democrat.

Last, you said 'after listening to [Obama's] arguments, I just thought [he was] very weak.' Yet before that, you said, 'All [Obama] has done throughout his campaign has been repackage everything that Hillary. . . [has] said, and say it a little bit poetic.'

I rest my case.

USA Pit Bull 63 said 04/13, 08:17 PM
You say that Obama ''is simply frustrated and cannot take the pressure'' -- and yet he is still WINNING against the candidate, amongst their own party, whom you seem to think is a much stronger campaigner.

So your rationale is. . . Hillary is the strongest, toughest, grittiest campaigner between the two remaining democratic candidates---but only when it's against republicans. Thus, Obama should be happy with the fact that he's winning against this alleged republican-slayer, but not happy enough to defeat her when he has a chance.

Actually, the latest news is Clinton telling 'small-town' PA media and residents that the last time she fired a gun and attended church ''is not a relevant question in this debate.''

CNN.com reports: ''We can answer that some other time,'' Clinton said at a press conference held in a working class neighborhood here. ''This is about what people feel is being said about them. I went to church on Easter. I mean, so?''

Wow, she really IS in touch with working-class, small-town midwesterners. That's just the no-nonsense answer they want to hear.

Obama and Clinton have the same Iraq plan, which is why it sounds so similar. Pull out while it's popular.

USA Pit Bull 63 said 04/14, 05:14 PM
I think you meant that you hope this IS my first election, which would explain my (alleged) lack of sophisticated general-election knowledge.

The fact that there is a front-runner in terms of delegates, by April, usually does mean (s)he will achieve the nomination for his or her party. I know it's hard for you to believe, but I'm not just making this up. Though there is suspense now, I doubt even the Democratic Party will be foolish enough to go against its own popular vote come the summer convention.

I mean, who would be blamed for voter disenfranchisement? Who would face allegations of voter intimidation? Who would be accused of unfair gerrymandering at the last minute? I cannot foresee Democrats putting themselves in a position where they'd have to use these sour grapes against a non-republican.

And how can Clinton say that her own church-attendance and experience with guns are irrelevant when SHE is the one who won't let go of Obama's ''bitter'' comment against traditional, mid-western Americans?

She's basically saying that PA voters should lose respect for Obama for not being in touch with their values---but that her own connection to those values don't matter.