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Hillary Clinton is ready to lead on day 1!

alexon96 said 04/19, 12:10 PM
Hillary Clinton has experience and she will try to accomplish things to make the USA a better place. Obama only talks about change. He doesn??t have a lot of experience and he barely accomplished anything in his political career. When one of Obama??s supporters was asked what Obama??s achievements were, the supporter couldn??t answer the question. Instead he said what Obama is promising. Hillary will be a better president!

theyoungdem said 04/19, 01:00 PM
How can you say she is ready to lead on day 1, when some of her choices on day 1 are later changed? Such as being for the Iraq War, and for NAFTA? Its not the Obama's fault that he had a supporter who was not informed as much. I can easily find you a Hillary supporter who doesn't know any of Hillary's accomplishments, but instead are supporting her because she has alot of experience. I can easily find you a McCain supporter who doesn't know his accomplishments, but support him for him being a republican. The fact his Hillary makes choices than goes against it, thats not the characteristic we need for someone who is ready to lead on day 1.

alexon96 said 04/19, 02:07 PM
Obama??s supporter was a state senator, Kirk Watson. Here is the video:
http://www.redlasso.com/ClipPlayer.aspx?id=d1766447-d990-4b3a-8baa-81c276111c30
Obama wasn??t part of the Senate when the vote for the Iraq War was held. Clinton had bigger responsibilities, while Obama just gave speeches about that. NAFTA was different 10 years ago. NOW That it changed, Clinton opposes it.

theyoungdem said 04/19, 02:33 PM
Yes it was a state senator, what is your point? He was still not informed well enough, since anyone who knows well about what Barack has done, they would never say that. After he graduated from Columbia University, one of the top universities in this country, he instead of trying to go get a job making alot of money, he went to work as a community organizer and was able to help countless people get jobs. He did much more after that.
Obama wasn't elected to the U.S. senate on the vote for Iraq, that is true. But he rallied against it. Clinton just gave a vote FOR the war. So now lets see, whats better? One vote for the war? Or many speeches against the war highlighting why it is wrong. I think it's impossible for you to argue that Hillary was better than Obama in that situation.

alexon96 said 04/19, 02:59 PM
The senator was supposed to know what Obama achieved if he was supporting him. The senator was a super delegate and for that, he had to know what Obama achieved. That wasn??t the point. The senator didn??t say anything about the achievements because probably Barack Obama didn??t achieve anything. Or if he did, the Senator didn??t know about it because it wasn??t important. Hillary did even more than what Obama did. She also went around the country and to other countries helping people and doing other things to help the USA. Hillary voted for the war, but she voted for it in a different way. She DIDN??T VOTE FOR THE US TO ATTACK IRAQ, BUT TO DO IT IN A DIFFERENT WAY: Obama voted for the Bush-Cheney energy bill. Clinton voted against it.

theyoungdem said 04/19, 03:15 PM
Why do you make him sound like he is a U.S. senator, he is a senator in Texas, which by the way is a huge Clinton State. If Clinton's achievements are so much better than Obama's, why is it that already two Clinton cabinet members and personal close friends of Clinton, endorse Obama? She voted to attack Iraq in a different way...you mean invade from the north instead of south? Also the bill itself was a good sepping stone fore starting to use reliable energy sources. Only six senators opposed it.

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The senator was supposed to know what Obama achieved if he was supporting him. The senator was a super delegate and for that, he had to know what Obama achieved. That wasn??t the point. The senator didn??t say anything about the achievements because probably Barack Obama didn??t achieve anything. Or if he did, the Senator didn??t know about it because it wasn??t important. Hillary did even more than what Obama did. She also went around the country and to other countries helping people and doing other things to help the USA. Hillary voted for the war, but she voted for it in a different way. She DIDN??T VOTE FOR THE US TO ATTACK IRAQ, BUT TO DO IT IN A DIFFERENT WAY: Obama voted for the Bush-Cheney energy bill. Clinton voted against it.

alexon96 | 04/19/08

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that was supposed to go in the argument section. My bad.

alexon96 | 04/19/08

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Alexon96, you should be banned from this site. You have the worst logical and oratory skills I have ever witnessed. Theyoungdem is not exactly silver-tongued himself (no offense), but he RUNS you.

DonkeyDude | 04/19/08

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