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USA Pit Bull 63 vs CRISP

Face Offs: 11
Wins: 7
Losses: 3
Ties: 1
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Face Offs: 16
Wins: 7
Losses: 9
Ties: 0
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4/25/08: 4 A.M. ET: Vote count between weareallequal and myself was 13-10. 4/25/08: 6 A.M. ET: Vote count between weareallequal and me is 24-10.

USA Pit Bull 63 said 04/25, 06:32 AM
http://www.elephant-donkey.com/elephantdonkey/show/8581

Two hours ago, the vote was 13-10. Now it's 24-10.

I suppose this is what I get for being the whistle-blower. If anyone thought I was making this stuff up, or just being paranoid, look at this vote total compared to the past few days, let alone just the past two hours.

If this keeps happening, this site is ruined.

CRISP said 04/25, 07:11 AM
Yes its me. I think It's time someone tells you to f*ck off. You have been spoiling this site using my name and other good names of good sportsman and women. You just are a cry baby that did not get enough love from home. This is not the place for that.

1. The only thing we all should do is appreciate the fact that the site is attracting new members and they are making up their minds.

2. I am not in favor of people voting for a stupid argument just to spite others. But I have no reason to believe that thats what is happening.

3. Over the past days if not a week, we have spent time reading your gabbage and theories. ENOUGH.

4. I wonder if you were the one getting the overwhelming support, whether you'd complain and cause all this silliness.

5. I didn't accept your challenge to win it,just to get an opportunity to address you once and for all. I dont think your oponent should take offence on your comments nor should the people who voted. You just must be excused for being a bad sport.

6. All you can do for yourself is to apologise to everyone for this chaos. But knowing you and your ego, you will not, you'd rather die,which I think is the next best option.

USA Pit Bull 63 said 04/25, 05:21 PM
Today's lesson: IRONY

Let's observe the following comments from someone named "Peace&Love":

''I think It's time someone tells you to f*ck off.''

''You have been spoiling this site using my name and other good names of good sportsman and women.''

''You just are a cry baby that did not get enough love from home.''

''All you can do for yourself is to apologise to everyone for this chaos. But knowing you and your ego, you will not, you'd rather die,which I think is the next best option.''

1. The site attracted 11 new members who ''voiced their opinions'' all for you, and all between 4-6 A.M. ET (1-3 A.M. PT), huh? Fascinating. Maybe they were all European.

2. You have ''no reason to believe'' that ''people are voting for a stupid argument just to spite others''? Actually, I agree. I think one person is doing most of the harm.

3. My ''gabbage'' and theories have been to raise awareness, not just to whine. And look at the comments: people are seeing it for themselves. Consider me a public service.

4. If I were getting bogus overwhelming support, I'd ask for it to stop or forfeit.

5. Cheaters aren't exactly good sports. I've been pretty fair.

6. Sorry you wish for my death.

CRISP said 04/26, 03:11 AM
The problem with you and some of your puppets is that you think you are entitled to winning no matter how flawed your arguments are.Your bully boy tactics have been exposed.You don???t win an argument by campaigning.Same thing that DD did with the debate on VPs.He complains that I have a lead and but his argument is better,then people start posting "I am switching my vote I'll vote for you DD".He realised that his victory wouldn't be on merit and legit he turns around and says NO! no! no! , vote for P&L just vote once.Bull Sh*t

Here???s the truth, both, you and DD have numerous accounts and you continue to vote for each other.You vote for other people so that it looks like you are being cheated on,then you scream and vent, throw your toys and stage performances.Just before polls close, votes switch to yourselves.I mean tons of votes.Think no one would find out.In fact you stooges revealed your scam thinking that it was going to stick on me. WRONG.

**** this site, I'm gone.I will not be a subject for scams by two immature freaks.Everyone else, good luck and sorry you had to fall for it.If I have a debate outstanding that I have not forfeited, take as though you've won it. Ciao

USA Pit Bull 63 said 04/26, 03:31 AM
P&L, you are the living, breathing embodiment of irony.

I don't have puppets, and you shouldn't blanket-insult potentially everyone on this site by vaguely alluding to users blindly agreeing with me. I do not think I'm entitled to winning; I think I'm entitled to good-faith debates and voting procedures based on the strength of my arguments. I don't lobby for votes; as with all aspects of life, I would much rather earn whatever I receive.

Bullies are people who intimidate and harass others. If you've been victimized by someone getting jollies out of causing chaos, I'm sorry; but judging by your inflated sense of your own debate skills, as well as your venomous personal attacks, it sounds more like you're upset for getting caught---rather than for being persecuted unfairly.

You sound like a disgruntled Chicken Little with your accusations. The stark difference between my warnings and your baseless accusations is something called EVIDENCE. DD and myself don't need scams because we're confident enough in our own---get this---debate skills to not need fraudulent assistance.

Lastly, if you're going to quit, you should forfeit. The site won't give ''outstanding'' wins otherwise.

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I'm convinced there has been rigging going on. I haven't been here very long, but it seems this started just recently. I was winning a debate 9-1. Then it was 9-3...9-4...9-5. I ended up sitting there, watching his numbers raise until it was tied -- all at once. Someone came along and put in another vote for me. Lo and behold, there's another vote for him. And another. Until the score was 16-10. As of this morning, it's 17-11. I don't care if I win, but I do care if my opponent can't even pace himself when he's rigging our debate. If I'm wrong, I apologize a hundred times over to my opponent and everyone else -- unfortunately, I doubt I am. This site relies on the honor system. If people can't handle the responsibility, the site quickly becomes useless.

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USA Pit Bull 63 vs CRISP

4/25/08: 4 A.M. ET: Vote count between weareallequal and myself was 13-10. 4/25/08: 6 A.M. ET: Vote count between weareallequal and me is 24-10.

CRISP forfeited, USA Pit Bull 63 wins

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