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4Gore said 05/08, 06:58 AM
It is a fact that the Dems presidential nominee will be decided on by Superdelegates, a possibility unfavored by the throngs of people who went out to vote in the primaries, but a possibility we cannot avoid.

These superdelegates can vote in anyway they deem fit. So if that's the case, why do we want her to quit. She is still expected to do very well on the remaining primaries, tipped to take 3 of the 6 convincingly. Her victory in Indiana and performance in North Carolina are underplayed, forgetting that in both these states she was counted out. She pulled a good performance there by any standards. That is what the superdelegates are looking at, the ability to come from the back and win. Obama's win was good to keep him in the front but not good enough to give him the nomination.

If superdelegates were only going with the winner, then there would be no unpledged superdelegates today.They remain over 270 precisely because they still think that Hillary could be the one.They know that she is still in the game and can manage to convince the superdelegates to swing towards her.Most of these supers will make last minute switches at the convention if she gets there. NOT YET.

4Gore said 05/09, 01:48 AM
There's one thing we seem to agree on, that neither of the candidates will finish the primaries with the required number of delegates needed for the nomination, unless a big number of supers make up their minds now.

The reason Clinton is still standing is because there are still votes out there (remaining states + Superdelegates) that can give her the nomination. She believes she can persuade one or both these pools of votes to swing her way. Whether or not that is possible is for Clinton to prove to all of us.

A section of the public, the media and analysts have ruled her out. She believes she can pull an upset.

Her strategy now is to

1. engage on a 1-0n-1 basis the supers, including those that have made their intentions known.

2. fight to sit the FL and MI delegates (whether that is changing the rules in the middle of the game or not) she wants to appeal to those who believe the same. Not sitting them may cost Dems in the fall.

Everything favors Obama now,but I say as long as the votes that are uncommitted are still available and combined can give her the nomination,she must just soldier on.

It's a simple principle of democracy, ALL VOTES MUST BE COUNTED

4Gore said 05/09, 09:41 AM
The thing is I don't believe the media, so I guess that throws your entire argument out the window. That said, Clinton is the one who has been pushing for the revote in both states, she even suggested that her and Obama jointly fundraise for the revote as the state would not pay for it. Obama chickened out and has been playing hide and seek on that score.

Your argument that people know Obama better now and they would vote for him, is irrelevant if you consider PA results. Same argument would have applied there, but it didn't.

Obama is leading but he does not have momentum. The last primary was split between them and don't even bring up the argument about a narrow victory for her, because a win is a win.